Alexander R. Tambascia - From US Army Lieutenant Colonel to Science Fiction Author

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Hi and welcome to author conversations with me, Chris Dabbs, as usual.

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Well, today we've got a bit of departure from our normal books.

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I'm really looking forward to this one.

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So what happens, right?

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When someone who knows military life from the inside decides to take it into space,

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yeah, you got it.

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My guest today is retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Tambascia.

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His ODAT books follow an elite armored team sent into extraordinary missions

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in a science fiction universe.

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But behind the futuristic action, our experience is drawn from a real military career

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giving everything much more authenticity, I think.

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Now, Alexander, after that introduction, welcome to author conversations.

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How are you?

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Great.

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Thank you for inviting me, Chris.

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I really appreciate it.

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So thank you very much.

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Hey, listen, no problem with what I'm really looking for.

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It's a finding more about the story and turning our listeners and viewers more about the,

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well, yeah, the story, your career as well, because, yeah, that's quite amazing.

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Not everyone gets to be a Lieutenant Colonel, right?

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So, your military career began long before he became an author.

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And now you've taken some of that experience, which is really interesting, and you put it

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into science fiction.

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I mean, what first made you think that those two worlds could come together in O-Dat?

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I mean, how much of the original idea, I guess, came from something you'd witnessed or

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experienced or lived through?

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Well, you know, I've always been a huge sci-fi anime fan ever since I was little.

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I'm a Gen X, or I grew up in the golden years of anime, you know, 80s and 90s.

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So I've always had a love for it.

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And, you know, so I grew up with reading science fiction, you know, at most famously, the

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most famous tank sci-fi tank series was Hammer Slammers written by David Drake.

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So when I entered the military service at 17, I enlisted.

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I served, you know, several years enlisted, went to OCS, you know, Mustang, meaning I called

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from enlisted to come in an officer in armor.

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And through a lot of that series, I served, you know, total 28 years, and I got medically

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retired due to combat injuries.

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And that was kind of a real shock to me because after 28 years, that's more than almost

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virtue of my whole adult life I served in uniform.

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And, you know, it was a culture shift from getting up every morning, you know, and exactly

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what my job is to getting up and trying to realize like, what do I do now?

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I'm a civilian.

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You know, I actually have to actually have to pick what I'm going to wear, you know, but

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it's one thing I like about it, you know, that's one thing left, but the military, you

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will the same thing every day.

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Not much slot.

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So, you know, and then on top of that, you know, the VA, our veterans administration for

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your UK fans, they manage us retirees from military service.

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You know, they told me that because of my exposure on terminal, and I was lucky and fortunate

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to meet a very famous international sci-fi author, Jonathan Yanis, and I asked him, I said,

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hey, you know, Jonathan, you know, I'm terminal, I'm a, you know, I just don't want to die,

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not people knowing me.

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So, if you make the character in your books, and he agreed, and he, him and I started talking

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over the year of my experiences, my personnel, how I do things, and he, he was the one who

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got convinced me to tell my story.

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He said, you know, and I told him, you know, I'm not a writer, I mean, I'm not some, you

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know, and he, you know, I said, you know, what I know is military and nobody really really

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wants to read hard for military stuff except military historians.

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And he explained to me, he goes, you know, you know, who aldus oxalutes?

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And I said, of course, I know what aldus oxalutes, he wrote, "Break into words."

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I mean, he said, "Did you know that was his autobiography of his drug abuse when he was

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growing up?"

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He, he, he, "Precife."

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I said, "I didn't know that."

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And he goes, "He says to me, "Well, he could do it.

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Why can't you?"

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Which kind of got me to, though, that back to you right in the corner where I had to

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agree, you know, I'll try.

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And when I sat there trying to develop my universe, I instantly came back to David Drake's

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hammer slammers and where, you know, one in three years, there has never been another science

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fiction series, whether it written, anime, movie, big screen of tanks dropping from Melbourne.

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I'm planning it.

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Okay, you know, I think I can, you know, really do him justice at, you know, being, you know,

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one of his, you know, one of his future, you know, mentories, you can say it.

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And so I came up with the whole concept of orbital drop armor team of tanks that get deployed

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from a drop cruiser in orbit onto a planet on drop sleds.

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You know, the sleds, you know, take up all the heat and atmospheric and they do the landing

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and then when they land, you know, explosive bolts, unleash the tracks and they roll out and

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they do their job.

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And so once I got that part of my book figured out, I had to then think about, you know, the big

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things of, well, you know, it's, because I wrote this like, my book series is near future,

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alternate timeline, starting back from my graduated armor school because no one cares about my

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enlisted life.

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So I, you know, started from armor school.

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So because I was locking it back into like 1996, I said, well, I got to come up with something

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that's, you know, believable, near, near, near real term, near present day stuff, but

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while keeping it sci-fi and that's why I came up with the idea that, you know, that there

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is a giant intergalactic empires and, you know, we happen to be at promise of one called

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the Empire of Cool Worlds and they have a very unique principle of they choose certain

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cultures or civilizations to be, to provide certain types of, of services to the Empire.

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And when they come to Earth, they, they just want to bring inductances to their third war

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planet, their third planet to provide military forces to the imperial, military forces.

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And so my character, you know, gets ripped from serving what he, you know, at the time to

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being a, you know, US Army, terrestrial tanker to next he finds out he is now one of the first

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human Terrence to get thrown into the imperial forces.

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And because he's a tanker, he drops into, you know, the ODAC organization.

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And he doesn't realize until late, you know, about a quarter rate into the story that, you

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know, he made a joke.

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He goes, what, you know, what do you talk about?

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Tank's dropping from orbit or something and, you know, everyone looks in like that's exactly

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what we're talking about.

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And it's kind of our culture shock because, you know, I'm thinking, you know, I kind of

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think of it.

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I'm in, you know, for your UK fans, the main battle tank in America is the M1 Abrams and

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we have so variants of that.

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The last variant I worked on was an 80 ton beast.

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So trying to picture, you know, you're going to be dropped from orbit in an 80 ton steel

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coffin, you know, kind of, so a lot of apprehension into this.

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So I sat there and I said, okay, you know, I put a lot of physics in it.

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And there's a lot of physics behind a lot of my stuff in the book.

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And, you know, so when I said, how do we drop this, you know, went down through a lot of things.

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And, you know, that's kind of how I built the overall architecture of the story.

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But then, you know, sending that aside, it's really about, it's really for Lackar better

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way of saying it.

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It's an auto, it's my own personal autobiography set in a sci-fi background.

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So I take this huge universe that I've made, which we can, I'll explain later where I have

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subtle branches now of this universe due to my fan base.

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And bring it down to the person, which is the main character, which ironically is me, where

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you're seeing this all through his eyes and dealing with warfare from the eyes of someone

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who's never served in warfare.

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And one thing has made my book very unique is veterans from all countries, not only American

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veterans who served in my country, but I've had Australian, German, UK, comment about how

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brutally real my combat sequences are.

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And I did that on purpose because I've talked to civilians and they have no understanding

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of what warfare is like.

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What they know is what the move with Hollywood tells or what they see in anime, or you know,

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and I came in and I'm like, you know, no, it is much more darker than that.

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And I'm very, you know, I bring that grittiness, the reality.

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And I also bring in the pain and concept of being a leader where you have to, you know,

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make decisions and every decision has a concept and learning how to deal with those concepts.

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One of my best scenes in book one that a lot of people comment is when I did my first

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bayonet kill and I explained what it feels like killing someone with a bayonet.

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And I went very graphically with it.

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And a lot of vets have said to me, sent me letters and say, saying, that's the most realistic

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description I've ever read of someone using a bayonet to kill somebody.

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Which in some way, you know, says, you know, make me proud.

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So, hey, I did something right.

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But the same way I had to think of the reality of this was someone who did the same thing

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as me.

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So, he understands what I went through.

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So, it's kind of a mixed feeling type of compliment.

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So, the story is it's over three books.

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My old ad series currently has three books.

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There'll be a fourth book in about three years from now.

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But the three books really covered this whole cycle of him from me going from K4 and S4,

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which your fans should be very familiar with it happening in your content with the Bosnia

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and Kosovo to Afghanistan finally ending up in Iraq.

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And so I took a lot of the real, I took a lot of the real villains and the scenarios.

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And I just swapped the location.

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I mean, I've had people who read book one and they knew exactly what I was talking about

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in Kosovo and Serbia, body of description.

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And all I did was put it on a different planet.

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A lot of the characters of the book are based on real characters I've served with, I met

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with.

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So, they're in the book.

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And it is...

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And the biggest thing most people have said about my books is the character is very human,

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very relieved.

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My character is not a super soldier.

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He's not...

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Well, I hate using this reference, but he's no captain in America.

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He's no super, you know, he's not Rambo.

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He's not...

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He's just an average Taran who gets to play with really big toys.

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And he makes mistakes.

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You know, a lot of the book is very self-deprecating because I do talk about a lot of stupid things

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I've did and survived.

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And a lot of people say that, you know, that makes him very...

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Very relatable as a hero.

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And in fact, I...

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I purposely glorified a lot of the people I served with because they did some really

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amazing things.

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And sadly, a lot of people won't know...

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Who don't read the book won't know about them because, you know, they never got to come back

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home with me.

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So I kind of felt, you know, an obligation that if I'm going to write about them, I want

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people to know about how these people really serve and do a lot who are, you know, their

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country.

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And, you know, and what I kind of found very funny is is I do have one British character in

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my book based off a real British SAS member named...

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His name is Captain Smite.

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And I met Smite early in my career when I first started doing overseas work in K4 and

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S4.

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And I made the mistake of confusing his...

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You know, UK SAS, Australian SAS, and I got a very long lecture on how they're different.

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I do, I bet.

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But I find a lot of people, you know, a lot of people from your love, Captain Smite and a lot

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of people said I really captured the British humor.

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And he was a really nice guy.

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And I really enjoyed being with him.

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The way he would talk about, as he would say, "You yanks do crazy shit."

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And I'm like, "Well, you know, I said, you're talking to a group of people that when you stood

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out there and read and read codes in straight lines, we stood behind trees."

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"Tanny, you good."

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So we got a lot of that painter.

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And the one thing I always loved when we were serving together is every Fourth of July,

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he would always send me a card saying, "Happen, happy treason day."

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So we had...

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Oh, that's quite funny.

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So I really admire him.

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And I'm really sad that I, you know, as our careers went off and we won the different things,

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I kind of lost touch with him.

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So I hope if he's alive, he happens to see this or see my book, he reads it and, you know,

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he enjoys how I pick, how I embody this character in my stories.

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But the ODAT series is not...

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If I was going to tell someone who's not a military, I don't know, please civilian, do just

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a side part.

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I have to...

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I tell them, you know, my book is not the traditional sci-fi military war football that you would normally

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read written by Jeffrey Haskell, Evie Larson, you know, Jonathan Yannis.

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And, uh, who...

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Get his name.

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Michael Douglas, you know, where my book is, you know, it's the technology, you know, there's

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a big divide in the technology where a lot of stuff that my main character and Terrence

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use in general are very typical modern stuff that we have.

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And, you know, the real science fiction stuff is used by aliens mainly, you know, you

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know, or it doesn't have its own spaceship.

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We don't have hyper drives.

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We don't have any of that technology.

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So, you know, when you're reading this, you're seeing from a perspective of a, a group of

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Terrence thrown into, you know, intergalactic warfare using conventional weaponry to

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fight.

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And, you know, it's, you know, in my book, the first, you know, variant of, you know, I came

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out of the future variant of the M1A4 Abrams main battle tank, which ironically last year,

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the US Army actually developed.

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I don't know if anyone read my book and decided to do that or not, but they, you know, it's

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a real tank now.

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I think the most advanced weapon I have from, you know, Terra.

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So, what we call Terra.

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Terra is, you know, the rail gun, which is the main gun of the Abrams tank because, you

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You know, there's nothing far fetched with it.

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I do, you know, a lot of my philosophy in the technology is like Arthlett C. Clarke's

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version, you know, any science, anything that's science, you know, advanced science is magic.

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very science.

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It's like the chief engineers of these ships are called tech mages.

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they use to make things happen is magically to us.

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So even though we understand that it's really science, I kind of bring in that Arthlett C. Clarke

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metaphor into the books.

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I just make it a little bit more of a practical application of how it is.

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And the story, you know, crutches, you know, the free burns and the universe is very big.

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My fan base has come to me and said, you know, they want to know more about different aspects

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of my universe.

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So I have several story arcs now.

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The book, I have a book coming out this December, which is based on a story of Odette Universe,

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which is called Imperial Private Year, which focuses more on Navy combat.

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Because all my fans are like, it's really cool, you know, you get all the ground cup up.

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You know, we want to hear more about space combat and space warfare.

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So I created that series to give that fan base, that, you know, that enjoyment.

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I have other fans that say, well, how is law enforcement done in your universe?

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So I created a new story arc I called Imperial Marshal Service, which actually got adapted

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into an anime that's actually running on Mochi TV and YouTube.

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There's an anime adaptation of that story that's out there, you know, for those who like

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law and order and that was type of thing.

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So it's a very big universe that I created.

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And I'll be the first one to honest say, I never expected it to become so big of a universe.

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It was really my fans coming in and saying, hey, you talked about this in book one or book

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two and I wanted to know more about it.

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And I'm like, oh crap, now I could actually, you know, come up with backstory.

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I think, do make it.

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You know, like book two, oh my, I talk about the Imperial Intelligence Corps.

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And, you know, and that was based because during a lot of work in Afghanistan, I worked

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with intelligence.

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Flicks like, you know, I brought them in and then that has more because I had people that

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we're all wanting no more about intelligence because you know, they're, you know, they're

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big spy fans, which, you know, a lot of them are chain bonds fans.

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You know, I got a lot of people asking me, sending me fan mail saying, hey, does the

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impurities, you know, does the impurities tell us to have like a James Bond up their

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organization?

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And I'm like, and then I turned around and I said, you know, no, there's, there's

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definitely no James Bond.

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I don't think any alien race is refined enough to, to end up a pure British culture of

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the whole hunt and I win them ones to offend and Fleming.

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I mean, that's his creation.

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Ian Fleming did a great job and I don't think I could do justice by making a alien sci-fi

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version of that character.

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So I got to make it, you'd have to make it completely.

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Yeah, like an alien one or something, you know, whatever, really, I guess that's really interesting.

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Go ahead.

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And, you know, another thing is it's like, you know, at some point when you have an alien

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jizz bond, you know, where does he stop becoming like Captain Kirk who sleeps with every alien

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he meets?

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So it's how do I, both the same, really?

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Well, yeah, exactly.

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So, you know, I do a lot of talking here and trying to, you know, introduce everybody, but, you

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know, they sit the questions or anything you want me to expand on about my background,

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my story, my characters.

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Well, you know, as you've been talking, it's been wonderful because you've basically ticking

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off all the questions.

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Yeah, you've been very good-sized, which is great.

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Really, thanks for that.

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I mean, even the futuristic weaponry question I had is out the window because, you know,

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we're talking about how the technology is near future.

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So basically, it's incredible to think that, you know, that imperial outfit basically

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comes to Terra and enlists the human race into their army kind of thing, I guess, right?

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And then says, right, bring your tanks.

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We're going to put them on these sleds and we're going to throw you out the edge instead

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of an end of a plane, right?

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And one of those, I know, galaxy things or whatever that, you know, you guys have.

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And instead of out of the back of one of those, you're going out of the back, you know,

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in orbit.

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I mean, that's incredible, isn't it?

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I mean, was it fun actually thinking about all the ways that you could talk about the

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tech of that working rather than just being parachuted out of the back of the plane?

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Oh, yes, yes.

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It came in.

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When I started doing it, I first did a lot of research on physics.

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You know, academically, I have a doctorate of science and I said, okay, well, I'm going

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to do this.

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I've got to do it the right way because there's going to be that one science geek who's a

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site happens to be a site and he's going to nitpick every factor.

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So I developed the drop sleds and originally they were just a sled that was quasi-piloted

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by the driver of the tank that really was heat dissipation and, you know, retro-rockus

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to slow it down.

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So it doesn't come a big crater when it hits.

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And as I was writing it coming in, you know, I started coming up with all the questions

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like, well, what happens if they hit ADA on the way down?

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What if they hit anti-orbital?

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They, how do I want my countermeasures?

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They have flares and chaff.

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They have a very unique missile system called Amso's, which are anti-missile sand-ordinated,

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which is a missile that when it's fired towards incoming missiles, it explodes and leases,

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you know, very fine medical particles which are basically like sand at near-like speeds

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to incoming warheads to make them dead.

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And so, you know, I really came down to them and in my book, in chapter, you know, one of

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my later chapters in book one, I explained the whole ordeal from being dropped and the

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sensation of dropping, you know, you're going through away from the drop carrier and then

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you start hitting the atmosphere and going through the atmosphere of founding landing.

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And, you know, I did, when I did my research on that and going through it is, you know, I

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even read the transcripts of the pilot conversations from when the shuttle Columbia was coming

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in back to Earth. What was that? What did they go through? What they see and hear? And because

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in many ways, you know, the drop sleds work the same principle. And, you know, talking about,

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you know, the blackout period and when you trust and do the, and from the mesopherent tetrasphere

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and that ionization causes a blackout of communications and sensors and stuff where to the point where,

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you know, it comes back and it's literally, the way I try to put it in the book is, you know,

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they're pretty much blind until they get out of that. And then, you know, it's like they're

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in the middle of a warfare, you know, I'm incoming and everything like that is happening.

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So I try to capture all that to make it as believable as possible of how this would be done in a realistic

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way. And I really liked, you know, doing that. And I kind of kept that throughout the book on all my

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various technologies, you know, and I also try to incorporate the many cultures that need that are

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in, you know, the military services across our country, I mean, our country, our world. Because in book

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two, I actually have, there is a New Zealand combat unit. And, you know, I actually have before,

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they're going into into into combat, they're doing a hawk dance in their battle armor. And I'm

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describing, you know, how, how they're doing this in power armor. And someone actually said that,

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you know, that's, that would be such an awesome but scary thing to see. And I'm going, that's the point.

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Yeah, exactly. It's like it makes so scared. I didn't know something like that, right?

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You know, it is one line in book two where I get a classic slide is, you know, there's an

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operation and smides like, well, can we get this done in 30 minutes? And my character says,

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smite going, why 30 minutes? He goes, I have tea time in 30 minutes. I'm not going to miss my tea from it.

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Nice fair. Yeah, absolutely. He's got the right ideas. He's got the right ideas. Yeah, right.

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Yeah, I see you mean, well, listen, that is not the, we front out of time. I mean, can you believe it?

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I mean, it's kind of amazing really that I mean, I've listened to you. I'm thinking, man,

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I've got to read these books. These, this is good stuff. I love it. I love the technology. I love,

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I should, what I like about it, you know, coming from it from a non-military background is,

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as you said about the tech, I mean, you know, I like tech. I like sci-fi and stuff, but I quite like the,

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oh gosh, I was going to use a big word that juxtaposition, I guess, between the near future tech of

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Terra and then, as I've said before, you know, this proper, I guess, integral act, not,

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are they integral act, or just into Stella, you know, last bit of a difference there, isn't there?

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Integral act, all right. So, I mean, in that case, say you're talking like big time,

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you know, technology there, because what, even Star Trek's not integral act, is it? I mean,

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for us Trekkies, we know these things. But anyway, it's, yeah, it's one of those things. I think

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this sounds absolutely fascinating, because you've actually, as you've said, you've spoken to, or,

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you know, you've, you've responded with people who have served as well, and, you know, they've given

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you their seat of approval, right? On a lot of the combat and a lot of everything else. And I think

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that must be the toughest thing, do you think, to try and do that and to try and get it as accurate

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as possible where your peers, wherever they are, and whichever, you know, service they served in,

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actually can look at you and say, yeah, you know what, we're brothers, we understand exactly what

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you felt, and you got it right here, which is what you said about the guy of the bayonet, right?

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Right. Yes, you know, that is probably the most, you know, satisfying comment I get, and I really

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take those to heart, sincerely, because I really believe a realism is correct. In fact, you know,

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in books, you know, one of my beta readers in book three, I had a, a, a different combat unit that

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I'm not familiar with, and I screwed up their fire command, and he actually came back when I

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beta, he said, hey, you got the fire command running, it's done this one. I actually corrected it to,

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to make it seem correct. But I think, you know, one thing I before we go, I want your readers to be

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aware of is that if they go to YouTube and go and type the @symbol at Imperial Information Network,

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it comes with my YouTube page. In there, I have documentaries of my various fractions of my,

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of my universe. I have, you know, this information about the North skin empire, the coolwill empire,

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the equipment, the units. So there's a lot of documentaries I have in there. They can also see my

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anime series there. So, you know, if they want to dive in, you know, the thing that I'm not covered

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in my book, there's a documentary I usually have posted on my YouTube to explain about that I have

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documented about each one of my races. So, you know, I think it's a, you know, the Jeff the Good

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Resource, I definitely want fans to take advantage of. And, you know, it is a, you know, I created it

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because I have a lot of fans come to me asking me a lot of questions and I'm thinking, you know,

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why should I, you know, and I do take the time and respond to everyone of my fans right now,

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you see, you know, instead of taking all my time and responding to this one person, how many other

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people have that same question? And I said, well, why don't I make a YouTube page and upload it? So,

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everyone can see the, you know, what's being asked and how it, what the answer is. So, you know,

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that's, you know, and I'm very big. I've recorded it with my fans heavily in all my books,

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several of the characters and my books are actually based on my own fans. I have twins who read my

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book, one who's a very, very, uh, sell it fans of mine. There, I have them as the

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twins in my old ad books and they have probably become one of the biggest fan favorite characters

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I've had. So, but I do that because I appreciate my reader base. Uh, there wouldn't be an old ad

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universe. I wouldn't be here talking to you today if it wasn't for the fans,

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buy in my book and supporting me and and encouraging me to give them more.

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Well, thank you to the fans. Yeah, absolutely. Well, listen, it's been wonderful and we are, we are

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out of time. I'm so sorry. But listen, uh, we're tired. Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Arten Bashir. I

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mean, thank you very, very much for joining me today and giving us that whole picture of the

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old ad universe and all the books and, you know, remember everybody that, um, you can, you can

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actually go to, uh, Alexander's website, um, which is also, tell us the website address as well.

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millscifiauthor.com. There you go. Millscifiauthor.com. And is it similar on YouTube as well?

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If they look you up or look you up by name, which is the best way for people to find you yet.

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On YouTube, they have to use, uh, imperial information network is how you find me on YouTube.

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Hey, I like it. Imperial information network. Excellent. Love it. Okay. Well, that looks

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on the, it's a shame because we could literally talk for hours, right? Because I think this is

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just fascinating stuff. And I'm really glad that you shared all of that with us today. Um, I think

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it's going to be fantastic. And, you know, the way that people can, can listen and get into everything.

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I mean, not just your fans, but you know, obviously new fans that will come along. So thanks very

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much for coming along to all the conversations. Uh, it's been fantastic having you here. And well,

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thank you. And hopefully we'll talk again in the future. I would love to, um, in special when

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after I release my new book, Imperial Privateer, I would love to come back on and explain that series

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which is, um, my beta readers are raving about. It's been fantastic. As I say, I mean, I'm just excited.

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I'm going straight to your YouTube and that. Um, take it easy. And I'll see you again in the future

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that. Thank you very much for coming on to Author Conversations.

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