Hungry for More: Discipline, Faith and Endurance | JD Tremblay

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Well JD, thank you very much for joining me today.

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It's a pleasure to have you here

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and it's great to have you with us.

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Now, you know, looking back and researching

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for these questions, okay?

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It looks like you've had a fascinating journey.

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What's up joining the Canadian military at just 17 years' goals

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through to becoming an ultra-endurance athlete,

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mentor, firefighter, and author.

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I don't know how you get this time to do all those things.

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Let's start right at the beginning, okay?

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Now, my first question to you is,

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what first drew you to military service at such a young age?

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What made you want to join up?

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- Yeah, I had my parents divorced at the age of 14,

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so it was already a non-healthy environment.

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My parents were just looking for both their own journey.

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And also I was bullied as a kid,

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so in childhood, I did not have a lot of friends

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and so joining the military seemed like the only option.

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My parents did not have a lot of money set aside.

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We grew up, I say poor, but now we work with the

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anthropic ways of poor countries.

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And so I grew up in the northern part of Quebec,

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not a lot of opportunities through finances.

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And so at the age of 17, it seemed like a viable option.

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I don't regret it at all for what it's for.

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- Oh, no, exactly.

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I think it's a great reason to join up, isn't it?

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I mean, really, to give yourself the opportunities

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and to think about moving forward in your own life, really.

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Especially at that age.

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So tell us about the young JD Tromblay.

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Like before the military, what were you like?

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You mentioned that you were bullied.

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I mean, wow, what was happening?

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- Yeah, I grew up in the northern part of Quebec

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and it was mainly a blue collar village.

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And so I grew up going on

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what we call nowadays social media and being a star.

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I was on television every single night

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and I was doing commercials.

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So typical childhood where the kids would bully you

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as a result of your fame.

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So I had the opportunity to essentially use it

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as a catalyst to help me grow.

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So instead of using it as a victim mentality,

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that I could have easily just played in that realm.

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I decided to just use it in terms of

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how I see criticism from others

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and separating from the people that I love,

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such as my family.

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- Wow.

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- That's amazing.

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So you were bullied for being successful.

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I mean, come on.

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(laughing)

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- It just, it just, it just, it just,

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I was making money.

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It was different way of making money as a kid.

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I was on TV.

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Back in the days, we have to look at it too

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that there was no social media, Facebook, TikTok,

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all of these platforms do not exist.

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So even in my house, we had four channels for TV,

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which is with the majority of people would have.

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And I was on TV at least once a night at minimum.

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So people would see me every single night

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when directing a news or when you're seeing commercials.

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And it would be for all sorts of companies.

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So yeah.

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- Wow.

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- Well, you know, honestly, you just can't win sometimes,

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can you?

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So what you thought then is just kind of take your life

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into your own hands, but also give yourself up

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to military life, right?

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So, I mean, what appealed to you about doing that

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at the age of 17 there?

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I mean, was it like you say?

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Because really, you were, I guess emotionally strong

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at that time.

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And so yeah, you'd go for it.

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Whereas most normal 17 year olds

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just wouldn't know why it looked really.

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Well, this, I did not know what to do in school.

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And it did not really seem to me appealing

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to spend a lot of money on some form of education

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that I did not even know what I wanted either way.

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My parents were looking both for their own journey.

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And so they were not there to advise me in that sense.

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And so military just seemed like the viable option.

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And then there was this idea in the civilian,

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I thought that military would give you a military uniform

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and then they would cook your brain

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and give you discipline automatically.

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And I discovered that they don't, they give you a structure,

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they give you systems.

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If you follow the structure, if you follow these systems,

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which now I do use in my life, then and only then

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the byproduct would become discipline.

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Perfect.

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I was good to ask you about that.

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Because at the end of the day,

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it does discipline come from knowledge

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or does it come from following a system

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or does it come from an innate thing?

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I mean, there's a bit of every all of those parts in there,

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isn't it now, right?

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But I mean, looking back at all that,

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which of those lessons then do you think are

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the biggest ones that still shape who you are today?

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Because like you say, it must be something

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along the lines of following a system to create discipline.

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For sure, definitely the military age

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just gives you somewhat of a blank card.

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They give you these rules of engagement

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or they give you a structure and a system

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and then they give you the mission.

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And then within these parameters,

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then you just have to go from point A to point B

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and just get the job done.

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So now I get to use this framework even in my life today,

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where we have, I had to do the epic deckum.

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I wanted to get from point A to point B.

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I created this plan and this strategy.

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And then I implemented it.

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Well, yeah, and this is what we're going to get to now

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because I mean, you've got to have a plan.

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You've got to have some sort of strategy

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to be an elite athlete like that.

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You know, a mentor and author and a faculty of firefighter.

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I mean, come on.

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I mean, did you always see yourself heading

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in the direction of either of those sort of occupations

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or things really?

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Yeah, definitely.

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As a young age, what was, I believe four years old,

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I was already, so we grew up again in a poor environment,

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but we still had a poor in the back chart.

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And my parents, times were different in the 90s.

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The economy was much different.

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So we, I was diving in the water.

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And one time I saw my brother had his floaty fold to the surface

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and he did not know how to swim.

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So immediately jumped into emergency gear

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and I saved his life.

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And that happened multiple times

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that I saved the other individuals' lives.

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And so I already wanted to be of service to others

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and I already knew that it wasn't the medical field.

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Well, why not?

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You see that?

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That's amazing, isn't it?

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I think that from an early age,

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you know, you wanted to help and serve others.

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Oh, great.

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Well, perfect.

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And you've already mentioned one of the achievements

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that immediately stands held in your life,

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I think, you know, is that Epideca challenge, right?

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Now, for listeners hearing about this for the first time,

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you've got to tell us exactly what does it involve, please.

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So the Epideca is a triathlon.

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Triathlon is three sports into one,

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which is swimming, biking and running.

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And then within the triathlon umbrella,

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you have multiple distances.

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And then some listeners might have seen it in the Olympics.

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So that's one of those distances in triathlon.

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One of those distances is called the Ironman distance,

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which in the Imperial system, or for the US,

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is 2.4 miles of swimming, 112 miles of cycling.

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And then you follow it up with a full marathon.

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And then you have to do this all in one day.

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For the Ironman to fool, Ironman distance,

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you have to do it in 17 hours.

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But for us during that particular event,

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we had 24 hours from the start of the first Ironman

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to finish it and also to get to the next island.

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And so we did 10 Ironman distances in 10 days

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of them consecutive days over 6 Hawaiian island.

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And that equates to 1,406 miles of swimming, biking and running.

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And you just say it.

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It just rolls off your tongue as if it's nothing.

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(laughs)

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You were right.

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But most people, they struggle to understand

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what one Ironman can do to somebody, right?

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And you can feed you 10 consecutive days as you said.

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I mean, first of all, that must have taken some serious planning.

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I mean, in order to be able to move around.

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Did you have to move from island to island independently

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or were you shocked around?

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We had a team.

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So I had to pick my team, pay for their lodging,

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pay for everything about the crew had to be covered by the athlete.

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And we were four people in the crew

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and also me, so five in total.

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And then I split them into two teams.

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So one team would be on day one.

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And then the other team would be resting or as much as they can.

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And then they would be altering between the teams.

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Between the teams.

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Yeah, wow, gosh.

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I mean, I can see that you're planning and structuring

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of this kind of events and this kind of challenge.

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You know, the military service must have helped with that

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and your own innate ability, right?

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But I mean, what made you take on such an enormous challenge?

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Like the epic decker.

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I mean, how? Why?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I wanted to be a lot different.

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I saw an opportunity a few months before the epic decker.

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One guy got injured and he was one of the 10 that was registered

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for this particular event.

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Now it never happened in the history.

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And so this brand called Epic 5 had that event going on in 2022.

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And when the guy Joe Jave wrote on his Facebook a platform

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that I was following, he said, I am not going to be doing the epic decker

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because I got injured, hit by a car.

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And I just decided to buy his registration

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and be one of those 10 people that would be involved in that race.

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So 10 people registered.

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Only six showed up on the start line and only three finished in the world.

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Wow, that is amazing.

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I mean, that's really lucky that you managed to get onto it, right?

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But I guess you'd been following the guy.

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So you knew what you were getting into, I suppose.

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I mean, you know, when you're doing this,

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there must have been a moment where you really did think

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that you just couldn't do it anymore.

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You just can't finish it.

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I mean, why did that feel?

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I was ready to do anything that was in my power

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and within my variables to ensure that I would complete the epic decker.

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So even financially, I put myself in a position that I could not quit.

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So I eventually ended up selling my house

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so that I can pay for the finances of this particular race.

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So I understood that I had nowhere else to go to if I decided to quit.

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And that was that particular moment on the night of the third Iron Man

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where my crew chief sat with me and said,

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"You're timing days on your previous days.

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You are not going to finish.

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We did the math and you're not going to finish."

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And I said, "Well, I am going to finish."

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At the epic decker, she said, "Well, we made an arrangement with the organizer

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that you could maybe jump with the epic five and do some other..."

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And I just cut her off.

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I said, "It's written in my plan.

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I wrote 29 pages in my strategy plan.

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This is exactly how it's going to go."

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I said that I would not quit.

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And you are there to just implement the strategy plan, not question it

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or find some alternatives.

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I am not here for the epic five.

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I am here for the epic decker.

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I am here for the mission, which is this form of military mentality.

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And then I created it by a system because I use the...

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all of everything that I learned even in university as an engineer.

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To, again, I create this plan and look at all of the variables in this form of life equation.

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And then I just went for it.

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And I finished on that day.

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My legs were really tight on that particular day.

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I remember because it was my birthday on the next day.

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And we only had less than half an hour of sleep because I did finish.

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But I had to take my plane immediately after.

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So as I got in from the run, so I had done the swam, the bike, and then finally the run,

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we had to clear the hotel real quick and then just go straight to the airport.

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And when I got to the airport, my Sarah, that was in my team, just noticed that I could barely

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walk.

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So she put me into one of those wheelchair at the airport.

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And now someone had stolen my pants.

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And so I'm in my underwear.

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I'm hurrying up.

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I'm in a girl's hoodie and my face is all burned up.

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People are wishing me happy birthday because it turns out that it was the day of my birthday

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and then they're pushing me through an airport.

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Just...

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It was a memorable birthday, like that for sure.

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But my...

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I had a long day of my day off, and I had a long day off.

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And I had a long day off.

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And I had a long day off.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, you know, honestly, my hat's off to you.

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It's just wonderful hearing this.

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And I think, you know, for our listeners, this is what focus is like, right?

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This is what determination is like.

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I mean, it sounds to me that, okay, yes, of course, the challenge was really through

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the physical, right?

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But it's also the mental part of it.

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You know, you've got to block out, or it's like an athlete, right?

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As you know, clearly.

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I superior athlete who blocks out all noise and just concentrates on focusing on winning

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or performing that task, right?

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Is that what would you agree?

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That is exactly what we did.

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Yeah.

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Of course.

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I understood that I could not.

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It's minimal if you're able to do some task switching.

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So if you're able to chew gum and run, your brain is able to function in that way.

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In larger tasks, such as thinking about your finance, thinking about your life, thinking

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about school, thinking about businesses.

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So at that particular moment, I cut every single thing out of my life.

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I didn't even have social media at the time.

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It was, I had a Facebook, personal Facebook, and that's about it.

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So it was just about my cognitive bandwidth was completely focused towards the race.

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I even optimized my nutrition because I understood that my energy in terms of regulation would

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have a lot to do with digestion.

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So digestion takes a lot of your energy.

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So I resorted for a somewhat of a vegan diet.

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Like I'm not vegan anymore.

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I'm not advertising a vegan diet, but in that particular event, I was vegan.

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And that's because it was going through my system quite rapidly.

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And I would not have to focus too much on digestion.

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I would just get everything that I need in terms of a powder form or some other ways,

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like fruits and vegetables.

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And then I would just be able to focus, even my energy, my whole energy is focused just on

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that particular.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So as you say, your cognitive energy and your digestive energy, because every calorie

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counts, I guess, right?

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When you're doing something like that.

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Yeah, definitely.

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I was spending about, give or take, 10,000 calories per day.

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And there's no way that I was taking in 10,000 calories.

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So it was more of a weight loss program, a sadistic weight loss group.

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I was going to say, I need to lose some weight, right?

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But I'm not zoomed in now.

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We think about it to be there.

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My gosh.

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Okay.

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So let's move on to how you help others.

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Because I mean, it sounds like you have got some real talent here to be able to talk about

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it and be quite interesting about it.

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Because some elite athletes, there are bits of, you can't really talk to them very well.

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But I think you will definitely, you're definitely there aren't you?

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You're laughing, you're joking.

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You understand that people need help, right?

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So you help others to build resilience.

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And when people hear the phrase mental cuffness, for instance, right?

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But what do you think they often get wrong with this?

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What do they assume that that means?

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They assume that it's going to be easy or that you're somehow going to receive a magic

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pill or that you're going to watch one more TikTok video and that within a few minutes,

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then all of a sudden you will be tough mentally.

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And that can work in terms of a certain level of motivation, but motivation works for a short

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period and provide the result that you actually put in versus discipline where discipline takes

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a while to build.

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And so you need to build all of these foundational blocks, understanding that motivation is part

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of the recipe, but discipline is also part of the recipe with mental cuffness.

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And I'm asked, we said, you can't have discipline without, I guess, the mental cuffness and a

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bit of a plan going on, right?

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So explain to us what and our listeners, you know, viewers, what does resilience look

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like in everyday life for most people, do you think?

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What resilience is the ability to handle discipline for a long period.

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For many people when you hear their word discipline, they attempt to cringe or think of it in a

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negative way.

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So if you're able to switch it, do we posit it?

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So for me, it was easier in some sense because my level of discipline in terms of my non-negotiable

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was already fitness.

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So for me waking up in the morning and doing fitness or going during the day, doing fitness,

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it was already in place, but for some people, their level of discipline and their non-negotiable

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isn't fitness.

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To start, we're talking about starting to build a discipline, do I need?

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And so after I build that discipline, then that's been, eventually I just built that resilience

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to accomplish many feeds.

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So exactly.

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I think that's the whole point, doesn't it, right?

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You can use that skill, if you like, or you can use that trait to be able to do many, many

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things as you said.

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You balance all of those, if you know the fight to the day, all of those things because

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of being disciplined and everything else.

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So when you're helping somebody, what advice do you give them then to help them get through,

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I don't know, difficult season in their life or something like that.

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How do you help them like that?

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Well, the first thing that we do is we run them through our epic foundation and then our

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deck of system.

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The epic foundation is eternal restoration, physical temple, eye for identity and seed for

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community.

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So yes, they will join a community at the Hungry War, your academy, their identity, what

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is it rooted in some people that's rooted into work and then they want to have healthy relationship

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at their home.

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But yeah, they don't want to sacrifice certain parts of their work in order to have that relationship.

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And so we have to really work as to understanding where their identity comes from, their physical

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temple.

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For some people, they're great at praying and meditating and they're great at working.

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And again, they neglect their mindset and their physical health.

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And then again, when those four pillars are not in alignment with the goal that you're

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trying to achieve, which is ultimately based on your value system, then you're not capable

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of having that resilience because over time your body will break down, your mindset will

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go and it will be really difficult to handle the pressure over time.

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And the eternal restoration is for some individuals, they thought that attending church or wearing

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a certain type of clothes because of their parents, then going to some form of church ceremony,

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then they were ultimately having this form of relationship with, because I'm Christian

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and this is a Christian organization, a relationship with God essentially, which everybody, regardless

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of their faith, has to believe in some form of entity that is outside of them that controls

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all of the variables.

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Because even when we look at the epic deca, for me physically and mentally, I was able to

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control a lot of variables, but there were variables that were outside of my control.

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And those were given to, for me, God, but for some people, who are they given in times of

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need and if there's a storm, do you even have a relationship with God?

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And so really putting your values before your goal wouldn't make sense.

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And so that would be the first step that we take in finance.

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Gosh, right.

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So, I mean, there's a lot there, isn't there?

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I mean, you know, at the end of the day, we're talking about really unpacking somebody's

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life and then kind of looking at every aspect of it for the four pillars.

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Now, can you just remind us about the four pillars again?

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I think that's quite an important part of what you teach basically, isn't it?

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For sure.

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So, it's based on the epic deca.

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And so deca is our system and epic is our foundation of block and E is eternal restoration.

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P is physical temple.

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I is identity and see is community.

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That's perfect.

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Okay.

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So thank you for that.

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I think that makes sense.

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So, gosh, right.

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I mean, you know, obviously with people trying to listen to our podcast and understanding

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about lifelong fitness and things like that.

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I mean, if you think about it, do people actually overcomplement, they're overcomplement

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even their health and wellness things?

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I mean, are there mistakes you see people making when it comes to longevity and staying

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active, perhaps as they get older, like me or something?

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I mean, how would you help those people?

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Well, definitely.

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It's an overload that a lot of people are doing, whether it's on the physical side of

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things.

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So, we've seen it.

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If I look at the data, which many people have noticed, but maybe some of the listeners haven't

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as well touch on it during the COVID period, a lot of people and a lot of athletes will

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just take one group of individual and that's the statistic.

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Athletes, the athlete numbers increase or decrease depending on how they need to bring down

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or bring up their numbers has significantly improved as a result of them slowing down.

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Therefore, proving that for the majority of athletes, they were overdoing it even in

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the gym.

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So, that's for the majority of people.

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We are overstressed by a lot of noise.

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We are not placing our attention where it needs to be.

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And then, when you're saying about overcomplicating things, I had a client this week and he said, do

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you think that I should buy different types of shirts because I've heard that linen has

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a different frequency and it's going, and as I'm going to stop you right there, because

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again, you're thinking about all of these trends, but what is mandatory is for you to bring

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your way down to a healthy level prior to thinking and overcomplicating and adding something

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that is, in my opinion, necessary along the way, but it's so far down the line that even

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if right now, we would be considering it, it would be foolish to think about changing

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your entire wardrobe instead of looking at your personal health.

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So, in terms of longevity, a lot of people are overcomplicating their actual health by following

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each trend, whether it's even cold bath or cold plunges, they're overcomplicating it,

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changing their wardrobe or following every trend instead of really doing the basic, which

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are free for the majority of the actual system, the majority of free.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So, you think they're trying to just basically distract themselves from going through the

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painful parts of things, is it as simple as that, do you think?

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Are they really convinced that it's going to help them to change things, who are really

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in short?

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Well, because they're seeing someone that is taking some substance that sometimes is even

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illegal, and they're having a nice body, or that's what they're trying to aspire, and

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as a result, then they're associating the two and they're saying, well, now, because

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I want the body, now I will do exactly what that person is doing, but they're not seeing

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that either it's illegal drugs or it's an entire lifestyle that that person has, it's their

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identity, it's the way that they are becoming an influencer.

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So, by quieting down the noise, and I would say that the hardest part of even an athlete,

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the hardest part, even for me, it was recovery.

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It was about just slowing the brain down and understanding that it is mandatory for the

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body to recover.

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Well, from everything you're doing, exactly.

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It has to, doesn't it?

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Otherwise, how can you just keep going, even in the military, if you're out of maneuvers

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or if you're fighting, you're still going to have to recover, right?

494
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,280
You try to just go on for days and days, no, understand.

495
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Okay, well, tell us about the Hungry Warrior Academy.

496
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Is this where you sort of like help people like this?

497
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,080
And you know, what inspired you to create the Academy then?

498
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,080
Well, for sure.

499
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:55,480
We created it after the book became a success.

500
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,400
It was the best seller in French English and Spanish.

501
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,600
It's in five different languages and in multiple countries.

502
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,800
It's available on Amazon.

503
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,760
That's because a lot of people were asking me, how did you do this?

504
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:15,440
And apparently the answer is not, it was easy or it's natural for me.

505
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,760
And so I needed to put a plan on paper.

506
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,080
And then a lot of people, again, followed that system, received a lot of result and then

507
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,080
wanted more.

508
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:33,240
And so it created the Hungry Warrior Academy, which has online courses, online sessions.

509
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,440
And we have some workshops as well.

510
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,840
Wow, that's amazing.

511
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,840
All right.

512
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,640
So, you know, that's the really powerful name as well, right?

513
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,640
Hungry Warrior.

514
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,640
I mean, just quickly, where did that come from?

515
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,040
That's just because you were from, you know, obviously, one stage of Hungry Warrior.

516
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040
No, but what does that mean?

517
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,680
You're not talking about being physically hungry for food.

518
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,680
Are you talking about fighting?

519
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,040
You're talking about wanting a goal?

520
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,040
Is that it?

521
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Yeah, exactly.

522
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,560
It was, it's them from the story of David and Goliath, which most people, Christian, are

523
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,160
not understand the concept.

524
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:12,840
David was fighting against the giant that everybody in the army thought was impossible to

525
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,080
beat.

526
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:23,080
And David, so David had some brothers and he was delivering some food to his brothers.

527
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:29,640
Now, looking at the context of his brothers, his brothers were assuming had a certain level

528
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,640
of training.

529
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,960
So they were warriors.

530
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,480
They were inside of an army.

531
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,600
So they were warriors considered their title was the war warriors.

532
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:47,520
And then also they had a certain level of equipment, you know, by, by, by themselves.

533
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,640
So they've been also were assuming that they've been at war prior to war in some form

534
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,640
of combat.

535
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,960
So again, they're in all aspect, you know, you can see.

536
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:04,560
But when we look at the person that was really hungry to please God, the, the person that

537
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:13,480
was really willing to sacrifice even his life for the well-being of the entire nation,

538
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,280
it was a shepherd.

539
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,520
So it was not necessarily the person that was the fittest or the person that had the most

540
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,440
money and that time shepherds were the lowest level of society.

541
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:31,880
It was the person that had the heart for a transformation, the heart to really please

542
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,160
bad being that we call God.

543
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:42,720
And so without any armor, he went back to his training and he was as we can read between

544
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:49,440
the lines, obviously, is that he was the hungry warrior versus his brothers who were

545
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,440
simple warriors.

546
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Right.

547
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,440
Yeah.

548
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,920
It's like saying, I think it's the thing about bravery isn't there as well, you know, like bravery.

549
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,240
If you're, I don't know, in the military or something and you're ordered to do something

550
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,880
and it seems like it's bravery, that's not necessarily bravery.

551
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,040
Bravery is doing something that you're not ordered to do to save somebody, right?

552
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,640
I don't know whether you, you know what I'm talking about that, but, you know, it's

553
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:20,440
really, really hungry for sure.

554
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,440
Bravery is to do something even if you don't have fear.

555
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,920
So you're not going to have the fear, but you're good doing it.

556
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,520
So it's about having courage to do that.

557
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,440
So in spite of fear.

558
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,640
So we understand that there is fears.

559
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,080
It is difficult to live in this world.

560
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,280
There's all sorts of moving parts and variables that we can't control.

561
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:43,480
It's because we want to control parts that we haven't, we've made a lot of mistakes,

562
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:50,800
but it's in spite of fear that we are to advance in that combat and be hungry for more

563
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,800
in life.

564
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,000
And for success in these challenges that they come to you with, right?

565
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,480
That people, all sorts of different people will sign up.

566
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,000
So what does come with the biggest challenges then that people sign up, you know, for your

567
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000
help with?

568
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,240
Definitely.

569
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:13,720
So we have a physical section, we have a mental section and we have a spiritual section.

570
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:20,560
And then they would sign up for a session that is online.

571
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:26,120
And then they get in a room with some guys that have been in some form of battle that they

572
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,640
are, where they have seen.

573
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,200
And so they're capable now of battling some of these challenges.

574
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:42,480
So for example, we had a guy that came in and he was struggling even with tackling big

575
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:50,320
projects and he was working for a large company and turned out that he had it in him and we

576
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,320
saw it.

577
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:59,320
And now he, well, I don't want to say it exactly at the end, but he is in the process of even

578
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:06,280
purchasing and being part of one of the owner of that large company.

579
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,440
So making a right now it's about a $50 million deal.

580
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,560
So he's doing very, very well and it started out again just being an employee.

581
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,320
So understanding something you're worth is by having all of these warriors that have gone

582
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:25,120
through these battles and that are now able to guide you into that process.

583
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,120
Yeah.

584
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Well, that's the thing.

585
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,120
That's really interesting.

586
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,440
That's the mental side of things, right?

587
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:37,080
So as opposed to the physical, so people come to you if they need to focus on a particular

588
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:43,440
or learn how to focus, it focuses the wrong word, please tell me, but to focus on that particular

589
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,440
thing.

590
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,760
So that person had to focus on building up whatever it needed, whatever they needed to do

591
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,800
in order to be able to buy into that company, right, by the sounds of things and you help

592
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,920
them to focus and get that resilience to move forward with that, right?

593
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Yeah, we put them through our deck of system and the deck of system is through.

594
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:12,040
So D is discipline, E is energy regulation, C is capacity and A is action.

595
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:18,680
And so for him, his issue was C and A, which is the capacity.

596
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:25,160
So understanding where he needed to fit in, what is his purpose in the for for us, the

597
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:30,040
Christian, right? So we call it the kingdom. So where does he fit in to the kingdom?

598
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:36,800
And for us, we were from the outside seeing what he was capable of achieving, but for him,

599
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:43,120
he was just not seeing where all of this would stand and then eventually making some actions.

600
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,240
And that's because for him, he was doing actions, but he were not in the right direction.

601
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:52,920
So he was essentially shooting his arrows all in the far, all of his bullets in the field

602
00:36:52,920 --> 00:37:01,080
where he needed to be exactly at the right place, shooting his arrows.

603
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:06,800
Yeah, concentrating your efforts, right? So not just like everywhere, but what's the point

604
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,240
in that when you actually, you do want a particular, or to hit a particular goal, you're

605
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:14,680
focused on it and aim for it, right? I mean, I know that sounds easy, right?

606
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,440
That's not, but, you know, I think that yeah, this is one of the things.

607
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,600
So is this the kind of transformation really that you hope that your members, clients, people

608
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,880
that sign up that they kind of come through with, you know, something that's, well, pretty

609
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:36,840
life changing, really? Yeah, we've had people that we had one guy lost 28, you know, in two

610
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:46,560
weeks over some training with no injuries. Well, let's be fair. He had a blister on, I

611
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,760
can't remember which foot it was, but anyway, he was a blister. So he, and that's not, that's

612
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:59,120
not a significant injury was the way it was. It was an injury. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean,

613
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,760
okay, if you say it's the blisters, like, oh, he had a bit of a long tone now or something,

614
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,800
but I'm just that you love the sound. Yeah, but I had a blister. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

615
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:15,680
that's why it took me two weeks and not 10 days, right? I mean, you know, so no, that's, excuse

616
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:21,040
me. That's, no, that makes sense. I mean, you can't just like throw that away. It is the reason

617
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,600
for this. So okay, you mentioned the book. So what prompted you then to write hunger for

618
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,000
more in life then? Why was there a particular message you felt compelled to share with that

619
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:37,920
then? Yeah, it was, after the epic Decker, a lot of people were reaching out to me and

620
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:44,960
saying, how did you do it? And again, for me, as I said, it was natural. So that's the

621
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:52,320
real answer. But the real answer, the reason why it was natural is because I worked these skills

622
00:38:52,320 --> 00:39:03,120
daily for years before that. So my mental resilience was already present. I had already put in place

623
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:10,720
plan. I understood how to create this battle ready plan. I knew how to be that leader even in kind

624
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:17,280
of a pressure. I understood how to calculate all of these variables when I did my engineering

625
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:24,000
degrees. So it was not just about knowledge, but it was about using it. So it became some form of

626
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:31,840
powerful tool. So that degree was not just piece of paper. It was what I utilized to

627
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:39,120
complete the epic Decker. And so that's, that became my superpower. And then, but again, there's

628
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:44,800
nothing special about JD finishing the epic Decker. It was just, yes, I achieved it, but as a result

629
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,040
of following the system that I put in place, not giving up. I think that's the point though, isn't it?

630
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:57,680
You've proven the system by following it. And dequefus, you can't actually meet that tool.

631
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:04,320
I mean, brilliant. So if someone reads the book, right? And remembers kind of just one lesson,

632
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,160
a year later, after reading it, right? You know, we all kind of do that. Don't we? Oh, yeah.

633
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:13,200
Or you start to change your life and follow this thing in your mind. It always comes back, you know,

634
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,920
is it? Oh, yeah, I remember that. I need to be doing this. Or, you know, what lesson do you hope

635
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:25,520
that would be that somebody remembers? Well, definitely that we have limiting beliefs that are

636
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:34,560
that fall far shorter than what our actual goals are capable of being achieved. The book will

637
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:42,400
only provide you with the tools of achieving all of these goals in a step-by-step process. So

638
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:48,320
someone of changing your environment, how to utilize the neuroendocrine system to better your

639
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:56,720
performance. While still, I break down the nervous system and the endocrine system. And then,

640
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:02,960
after the explanation, I tell you exactly how to use it. But again, it's up to you to put those

641
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:10,720
actions behind it. And so those would be the two factors that I would love to that readers.

642
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:18,400
And you don't have to be a knelture triathlete to read the book. It's for everybody. All of these

643
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:25,680
tools are for everyone to use discipline is can be utilized in your marriage as much as your

644
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:33,760
business. And totally. I think that's a really good point because again, people just don't realise,

645
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,640
I mean, how long? I don't realise. I think we all take it for granted. But yes, okay,

646
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,920
oh, we're going to go, as you said, watch some influence to tell us about this or that or the other.

647
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,120
But at the end of the day, these are tools. And it all comes down up to up here, doesn't it? So

648
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:56,320
your mental resilience to be able to follow through on the plan that you really do want to put forward.

649
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:02,080
We could all give up. We can all stop doing that, you know, epic deckers. Can't we? After day one

650
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,720
and 15 minutes, but not after you've invested so much time in it, so much time and energy,

651
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:13,040
if you can change the variables, right? Obviously, if you injure yourself, you might be out of it. But,

652
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,040
you know, unfortunately, this is JD was just starting to run out of time here, which is really

653
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,360
upsetting because I'm loving this conversation. But after everything that you've achieved so far,

654
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,240
after everything you've overcome from your childhood, you know, after everything that you've experienced,

655
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:34,960
are you done now or are you still hungry for something else? Yeah, definitely. It's just the different

656
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:45,920
table. Right now, we are building hungry warrior academy. We have core heart starting,

657
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:53,280
um, with online sessions and we do have some workshop place throughout the year. And then we have

658
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:59,520
a philanthropic side. So we are right now in five different countries providing for thousands of

659
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:07,840
children. So we've given houses away. We've given clean water to entire villages and we're providing

660
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:14,800
opportunities for children that for them, they grew up in an environment where sometimes we can

661
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:26,080
away by, I would call them bad people or people that have low values. And so we're providing these

662
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:32,880
opportunities for these children. And then we have a mentor system to be able to help these kids

663
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,880
have a different mindset. So even if these resources are too big and they're able to, again,

664
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:48,480
move in the direction that they are wanting. I got you. Wow, it's amazing how much you give back,

665
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,800
right? But it's not like you, you are one of those people that's kind of selfless, um, say like,

666
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,880
I don't know, the discipline needy to be like a priest or something like that in, you know,

667
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,080
whatever, in whatever religion, you know, where you have to focus on that and you are giving back

668
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,440
at the same time. But you've done a lot for yourself, right? So it's not like you are just giving away

669
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:16,320
all of yourself because you do, you know, you succeed for your own benefit as well. So incredible stuff,

670
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:22,160
really, Gage, honestly. So where can listeners and viewers find out more about your work and connect

671
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,920
with you online, you know, your socials, that sort of stuff. For sure. We're on our social media

672
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:35,040
and they can reach out to us at hungrywaryouracademy.com. Hungryworriedacademy.com. Brilliant. Now,

673
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:41,440
before we close off, I always ask people, is there anything that I have missed asking you that you

674
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,320
think is super important because I would hope to close this off without you telling me something

675
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:51,920
super important that you forgot to ask? Well, is there anything else that people should know that I

676
00:44:51,920 --> 00:45:00,560
haven't asked? No, there's nothing that I see that you haven't asked us. I really appreciate your

677
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,840
concern because... Well, no, no, it's got to be done because you know, listeners, if there's anything

678
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,720
that you think that I should have asked or any comments that you'd like to make for JD, please leave

679
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:15,600
them in the comments down below because I know, JD, by the time I first of you are, you really want to

680
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,200
get involved with that conversation with them. So you can help as many people as possible, right?

681
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:26,320
Done. Yeah, absolutely. Well, listen, JD, thank you so much for joining me today. I have

682
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:31,120
super enjoyed this conversation and hearing more about all of your journey through your life,

683
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,400
you know, your approach to resilience, right? And what continues to drive you forward? I mean,

684
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,600
it's amazing what you've done, honestly. And it's been a pleasure speaking with you, you know,

685
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,000
I mean, this me telling you, it's amazing what you've done, whatever my opinion counts for.

686
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:53,040
All right, but you have done it. So there you go, JD, John Lowe, thank you again very much for your time.

687
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,720
And just one more time, what's your website address? Hungry, why you're

688
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:03,600
again, amy.com. Perfect. I hope that we speak again, JD. In the meantime, have a great rest of your day,

689
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:12,080
and I'll speak to you again soon. If you enjoyed this conversation, you can watch more author conversations here.

690
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