Lida Lee Roberts Interview | Faith, Truth and a Life-Changing Photo | Author Conversations with Chris Dabbs

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Hi there and welcome to author conversations, I'm Chris Dabbs and today is going to be a

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really good one I think, so stay tuned.

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I've got Lidi Lee Roberts with me who was born and raised in Texas.

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She's been a Christian now since she was about eight years old, but I think quite most

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of us is not really always acted like one, okay?

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But Jesus came into her life in a mighty and unexpected way.

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He allowed her, now listen, right?

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She allowed her to take a picture of himself in the clouds from the mount of olives.

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Well her life has changed forever since then as you can imagine and it's her hope that

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after seeing the picture and reading this book that your life will be changed too.

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So living in an excited expectation and anticipation and hope like never before with faith

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exponentially not a multiplied which we think we could all do with.

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This is her first book and it's divinely inspired.

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Jesus took her on location to notoh Sicily or notoh Sicily, I've got to say it in an Italian

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way, right?

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This is her first book and is divinely inspired.

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Jesus took her on location to motoh Sicily for uninterrupted communion with the Holy Spirit

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and he is knocking at the door and wants to communicate with you face to face.

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So after that massive build up, literally, hello, how are you today?

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I hope I can live up to all that.

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I'm great, I'm really good, thank you.

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You'll be fine, no, don't you worry about it.

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Okay, well let's get into it, shall we?

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And let's start talking about your book, "Quit Line to Children" to my children, right?

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Now that sounds really interesting, you know, in terms of a title and things.

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First of all, tell me about the title, what was that come from?

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So "Quit Line to my children", I had some people ask me, "Do you have children?

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Is that your children?"

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And I'm like, "No, that is God's children."

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And I believe that there's a lot of lies in this world that are fit forth and not so few

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of them by religion even.

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You know, I don't think it's intentional.

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I think that, you know, through religion, being going to church is a wonderful thing, but

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a lot of times it inspires fear and it inspires people to turn away from the church.

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And God is love, His first two commandments and what He hung everything else on.

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Was love the Lord that God, with all your heart and soul in mind, and love each other as

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yourself.

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And so I think we get away from that in particular in judgment.

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I don't think we understand sin at all.

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I think, you know, we think of the sins as like, "Do not murder, do not steal, which yes,

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those are commandments, but I think in God's reality, sin is sin."

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If you're not loving your neighbor as yourself, you're in sin.

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If you're not, if your whole heart isn't turned to God, that's in sin.

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So I don't think we're telling the whole story and I don't think we're telling how easy

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and simple it is.

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It literally is just to turn your whole heart to God.

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That is what He wants and that is His love and His hope and how He designed us.

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That's amazing.

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I love the way you put that actually.

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It's really interesting.

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I can see going back to what you said about how the church sometimes can put people off

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becoming church governors or perhaps being able to be as faithful as they want to be.

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I think that's the thing, isn't it?

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Is that what you're saying then?

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Really putting your whole heart towards Him, is it what?

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Why is that?

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I think this is the thing is what I agree with you with what you're saying about how we

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think about the commandments and then we don't realize that sins are pretty much all the

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time and we're working towards being sinless.

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I mean, that never kind of happens, does it?

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That's what we always have to sort of absorb ourselves or things.

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Yeah, I'm not an expert.

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You must know far more about this, though, I do.

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I don't think it's even that.

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I mean, I think that's part of the misunderstanding is that, you know, and that drives people

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away.

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I think I can never be good enough.

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I can never do anything.

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You know, I mean, I think, but it really is as simple as just turning, turning, just think

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about turning your looking up and saying, Lord, just make me, make me pleasing to you and

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just saying that in itself is good enough.

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And that I believe, well, I believe in Jesus, I believe in your Son.

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Make me pure in Him and pleasing to you.

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And that is it.

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We try to make things so complicated and, you know, I don't think you have to go through

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every sin that you've ever done since you were born.

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I don't believe that.

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I think that I talk about this in chapter 8, until everything that I've ever done bad

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in chapter 8.

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A lot of people just go to that chapter to read all the whole of this.

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I see it's chapter 18, not eight.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But how he brings sin up to you, your sins up to you, which he will do.

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And he expects you to say, you're sorry for that, but not in shame, how he's done it with

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me.

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And I can only assume that's how he works with everybody else.

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Because he brings it up in the veil of, and this is why you did it.

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I know you did this, but I also understand why you did it.

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And it's okay.

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And I forgive you.

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And you talk about having a weight released.

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You know, the devil wants us all to walk around with every sin we've ever done on our

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backs.

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He's the one that is accusing us that is, you know, saying in our psyche that you're bad,

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you're perverted, you're, you know, a drug addict, you're an alcoholic, you're what it, he's

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the one that has all those labels.

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God does not have that.

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God has nothing but love for us.

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You know, that's a really good way to put that as well.

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You're doing well here.

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I love that.

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Okay.

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So we, yes.

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And I actually understand, I think, that, you know, it's not about being regretful, I think,

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you know, of course, with a sin.

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We're infallible, right?

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That's the whole, or a, we're, we're fallible.

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That's right.

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And God is supposed to be infallible, right?

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So that's the only person that can be, you know, humans, we're not, we're not able to

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be.

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So I think we've got to understand that.

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And I think that, although we don't, that's very true.

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No, okay.

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In the beginning of the book, then you're talking about a hole in the heart.

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I'm not looking here, you know, that, that only God can fill.

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Is that what you mean there?

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Is that like sort of loneliness or, what do you mean by that concept?

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God created us, and this is all scriptural.

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God created us for His pleasure.

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And He created us to love Him.

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Yes, that's how we were created in perfect love with our creator.

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And you probably know all those stories of that, but we've turned against Him.

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We turned against Him, Adam did in the garden.

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And we have, I mean, throughout the Bible, we have made bad choices.

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You know, we wanted a human king.

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We didn't want him as king.

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We wanted a human priest.

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We didn't want him.

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We've rejected him over and over and over again.

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And He's allowed us, very patiently, like children, to have these things and live out our

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choices, you know, that ultimately have harmed us and it separated us from God, which is

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that hole.

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That's not how we, that's not how we were created.

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That's not how we were meant to live.

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And so, you know, in this world, we try to fill that hole up with a lot of things.

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Like, you know, you think your marriage is going to make you happy and fulfilled and it

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does.

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But as we all know, you know, it's a hard road too.

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Your children, the same thing.

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You think once I have children, I'll be happy.

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And man, there are a lot of trouble.

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And you have minds of their own.

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And you get some of the treatment that we give God, you know, it's the same, it's the

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our Heavenly Father.

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We treat Him the same as our real Father.

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Even jobs, you know, you think, oh gosh, that's going to make everything all right.

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And then it does it.

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And then all those disappointments kind of add up.

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And, you know, then the really bad, some people start turning to drugs or alcohol or sex

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or, you know, things that make you feel good in the moment.

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Even your iPhone, your streaming devices, whatever.

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I mean, I think sin is anything that draws you away from God.

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And that is the misunderstanding, you know, man in the devil, there are heat judges, people.

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He's the one that judges, oh, you know, that's you're bad.

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You're drinking too much.

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You're doing this, you're having sex outside of marriage.

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I mean, the Lord doesn't like it, but He understands it.

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And He understands that your heart is ultimately seeking Him.

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And Satan is blinding the path to Him with all of these other temptations.

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He knows who to blame.

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And it's not you.

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And you see that this is the same.

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Exactly.

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It's the same.

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Right.

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So there we are.

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I mean, you know, I, you know, I think this is the thing, right?

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And I think you have come to realize all of this because of your study of scripture, I think,

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is that right?

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Is that why you sort of, you know, you suggest to people to study scripture so that they

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can also understand this?

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It's not only that, I mean, it, yes, that is scripture, but with the Holy Spirit.

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I think a lot of people, and I did that when I was young, because I went to Baptist high

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school.

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I went to Baptist college and I studied, but at that point, it was more intellectual, you

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know, I was memorizing things and, you know, more being tested on, do I know the history

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and blah, blah, blah.

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I think my understanding now, after developing my relationship with the Holy Spirit is that

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the Bible is meant as a lifelong kind of scavenger hunt.

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And you can't do it.

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You can't understand it without having the Holy Spirit with you.

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So I mean, I will, I'm sitting here, I have Romans 8 in front of me.

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I was nervous, so I was reading that.

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It's one of my favorite chapters of the Bible.

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And I read, I read it completely different today.

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Like, and that's what I'm talking about, the Holy Spirit will open your mind slowly, ever

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so slowly.

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And throughout your whole life, you'll, you know, you'll have favorite things and then he'll

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just, oh, I add little bits at a time.

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And it's a beautiful, beautiful relationship with your God.

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This is his love letter to you.

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I mean, you shouldn't think of it as a burden to memorize or, you know, whatever, to a burden.

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It is, it is a conversation.

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It's how he teaches you and it's how you learn the heart of God, which is what I've discovered.

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Yeah.

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So I guess.

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I think that's the whole point.

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And that's why in this, I encourage everybody to do it for themselves because there's a

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lot of, I think the devil works through everything in this life.

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He works through politics for sure.

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Everybody can see that.

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I think, you know, he's, he's the author of confusion, right?

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In this world, in general, is confused right now.

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And even in church, there's confusion over what to believe and what had, you know, what

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this, this doctor in that doctor, it's just about God's love.

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Just keep it simple.

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And as long as you are reading yourself and you have that relationship with Christ, I

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mean, you'll, you'll, you will discern and you will know the difference when people are

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speaking truth and when they're not.

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Because there's a lot of who looks out there.

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Exactly.

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Well, I think this is the thing, isn't it, right?

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So you were reading Romans 8 before our meeting, right?

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So before our chat, and that helped you to overcome, because you felt, you felt, well, not

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so lonely, I guess, right?

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In the thing, because you were in, in this, you know, context.

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And again, yeah, I, again, I'm, I'm seedless more and more.

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The more people I talk to, in order for conversations, a lot of people talk about the Holy

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Spirit and, you know, and being a very big guiding person, you know, to us, which is amazing.

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And then of course, if you are reading scripture, you're not doing it because it's a task.

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You're not doing it because it's homework, as you said, right?

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You're not a college.

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You're not tested.

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Yeah.

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You're doing it for your own, well, because you enjoy it, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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Well, I think it's, I think it's life-giving.

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I think it's, it's renewal.

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It is, it's, it makes you come alive.

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Yeah, it's no like reading Harry Potter, right?

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Certainly.

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You know, at the end of the day, it's making use of you.

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I mean, understanding the love that your creator has for you is life-giving and understanding

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the forgiveness that is there.

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And sometimes even that can become tried in the way that people say that, you know?

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I think, because some people, I think that's also because of how we judge each other, right?

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before God and say all this stuff that I did.

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Harry knows what you did.

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And I guarantee you, after thousands of years, you're not going to surprise him with a

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sin that he doesn't know.

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I don't care anymore.

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Oh, I'm glad.

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God as well, you know, is an interesting thing.

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As you say in this, in today's world, right?

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overwhelmed, isn't it, right now?

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So how can people who perhaps haven't done before, right?

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How can they make that first step then towards God and towards the Holy Spirit and towards

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everything, you know, feeling that sort of solace and, and I don't know, accompaniment,

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you know, help, you know, just that better feeling.

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What's their first step?

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So they should take to reconnect perhaps with God.

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Well, I think, you know, I think sometimes this is where Christians intimidate non-Christians

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because they get up and say these massive prayers.

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Oh, you know, angels come fly here and take this and do this and blah, blah, blah, blah.

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You know, and that's great, but you alone in your room.

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I mean, if you want to get underneath your shore, but I mean, just laying in bed, you just

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Lord, I can't take what's going on anymore and I've never, I've never talked to you.

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I don't even know that I believe in you, but will you please just give me some kind of

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sign and maybe give me a little faith like, like these people that I see because I, I

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want to believe and I want to know you.

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And I, that he will open your eyes to miracles that have always been around you.

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It's, it's really a matter of perspective, but you just have to take a tiny step and that's

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That prayer right there.

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If you want to copy that, that is enough.

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That's it.

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If you want to read the battle, do it, but you know what?

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That is enough.

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And then slowly keep talking to him, slowly he'll, he'll show you where he wants you to

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re-first and what, you know, I, you know, I don't have children, but I have a lot of nieces

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and nephews.

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And you talk to your children, you don't talk to all your children the same.

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You talk to, you talk to them differently because you know their personalities and everything

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else.

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God is the same way.

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He knows to out of how to talk to each of our hearts because He created us.

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And so it's wonderful and, and just reach out to him, he's there.

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He's always there.

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He's dying.

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He's been chasing each of us.

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He's been chasing all of us for thousands and thousands of years.

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His whole, his will is for all to come to repentance.

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They probably won't.

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And that's another word that is misused repentance that's translated in the Bible as

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"tenshiva" in, in the Jewish in Hebrew.

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And it, it means like I was talking about it, just to turn yourself to him, not to go through

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your list of sins.

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I don't, I mean, whatever.

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Turn yourself to him.

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That's it.

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Come out of this world and turn towards me.

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So that's a great first step, you know, don't really, you know, it doesn't have to be

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complicated, like you say.

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Not some massive, long, you know, written down institutional prayer.

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Just start, start the conversation, right?

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I'll see, you know, like, it's just amazing listening to you.

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You sound very wise and you don't look old enough to be wise, to be fair.

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I'm very old.

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I'm very old.

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This is, this is the Jesus happy base.

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This is what I think I'm going to do.

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I know that.

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I know that.

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So, yeah, that's very right, I think.

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And, you know, I think the reader is looking to read a book that that's friendly, that's written

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by a wise person that hasn't got a big agenda, you know, that is just looking to do this.

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It is, you know, so refreshing to be fair in the, especially in this world.

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So, readers, make sure that you take a look at this.

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So as far as readers are concerned, okay?

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If there was one message that your readers could take away from reading your book, what do

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you think that that should be in relation to their relationship with Christ?

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I guess you've probably already said it.

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I mean, what do you think they should be thinking about?

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We hope that they know.

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I think just looking internally, you know, and understanding, you know, I have always been

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missing something.

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I mean, if you, here's another thing, one of the hardest things to do in this world, I think,

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is to sit in silence.

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We are, we're kind of terrified of it.

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We either have music on, we've got TV on, we're, I mean, it is rare that you just sit there

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with yourself.

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It is extremely uncomfortable the first few times that you do it.

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But I think if you do that and seek the Lord, I think you'd be shocked at what you find.

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And like I said, I'm not going to tell you what you find because it's different for everybody,

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but you'll find it.

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I promise that.

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And I think, you know, looking at the Bible as His level, as His level, as His level, language,

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is a beautiful thing and a beautiful way to have, begin the relationship of your life,

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begin the relationship that you were meant for, and that you can take, you know, forever,

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that you will have forever.

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Nothing in this life is forever, but that is, and that is true.

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And He will open your eyes slowly to the things around you that are just amazing.

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The other thing, and I know it's kind of, it's crazy to talk about, but I, the Lord moved

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me to write about it is the Antichrist, and I know that that scares the, the Jesus out of

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people because of movies and stuff, how they portrayed everything and the Antichrist in

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the Bible literally means instead of Christ.

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He's not coming as, as some big battle.

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He is literally Satan disguised as Jesus.

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too, will be deceived.

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And I, you know, He's not coming to kill a bunch of people.

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He's coming to put a chicken in every pot.

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Everybody, you know, everybody, I'll make everybody rich.

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You don't have to work anymore.

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You don't have to do anything.

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Just worship me.

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I'm here.

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And it is going to be extremely deceiving.

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And I truly believe that he will come saying that he's the rapture too.

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That's another part of the quit line to my children.

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I don't think the churches that are preaching that are doing that maliciously or on purpose,

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trying to deceive people.

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But it is.

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It is a terrible deception that is coming.

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The word rapture is nowhere in the Bible that came from a woman in the 1830s that had a

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vision.

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Even she herself said that it was evil, felt evil when she had it.

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The scripture that's most linked to that is second Thessalonians and it talks about meeting

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God in the clouds and everything.

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But all this scripture says he is coming here.

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He is establishing his kingdom here.

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the cloud.

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And you know what that cloud was?

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It was the glory of God.

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So it's going to be the glory of God here on earth, not us going to meet Him in the clouds

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too.

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And if you think about it too, like God wouldn't, He wouldn't do that to us.

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He wouldn't just take a few people up there.

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His best Christians.

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He's just going to take a few of them and leave them.

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Everybody else, our brothers and sisters down there with no help, that doesn't make sense.

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He doesn't operate like that.

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That is terrible.

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And I wouldn't believe in a God that would do that.

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That's awful.

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And I wouldn't do that as much as I love my brothers and sisters.

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I want to be here to warn them.

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I want to be here to witness against that guy because he's leading people away and good people.

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They're really good people in the church that will go, oh my gosh, I've been unknowingly

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worshipping Satan that looked like Jesus.

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I had no idea.

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And then it says they will pray for the mountains to fall on because they'll be so embarrassed.

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So that's nothing to be scared of, nothing to be, it's just to know.

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It's just to have that knowledge, you know.

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And when you know what is going to happen, when you know the plan of attack, when we know

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everything, then you're not afraid.

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There's nothing to be afraid of.

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As a matter of fact, Jesus before He left gave us power over serpents and scorpions.

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So it's again, nothing to be afraid of, but something we need to know.

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Well, again, yeah.

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Can you stop being wise?

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No, don't.

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But I mean, you know, everything you're right.

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Absolutely.

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I think the rancher kind of, you know, thing, as it were, is interesting again because, yeah,

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there are churches out there who put a specific number on that sort of thing about who's

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going to be saved and reasons why and all of that sort of thing.

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And that's always made me think, like you, you know, hey, hang on a second, that's not

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really kind of nice.

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But I mean, you know, they have their own deal, they, whatever.

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But I think it's, yeah, I get what you're saying.

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I get what you're saying.

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So you mentioned the antiprised and what you're saying is it's not that safe and dire

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again, but it's anyone, or we can be safe, I guess, it can be anything that takes you away from

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Christ.

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Is that what you meant?

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No, the antiprised is a person that will come pretending to be Christ.

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He hasn't, he hasn't gotten here yet.

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A lot of people are like, oh, Trump's the antiprised or whoever.

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I mean, no, this will be a show.

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He will be supernatural because it will be safe in himself.

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He will be supernatural and he will look like Christ and people will be deceived.

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All of that is biblical, all of it.

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So again, nothing to be afraid of just for knowledge and for preparation and, you know,

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tell your friends and family and, you know, because it's going to be, I don't think that,

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I don't think the people that are deceived, that God is going to zap them.

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Like, I got, you know, you fell for the wrong guy, so I'm going to get you.

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I think it's more their shame because they'll, they, they will just feel ashamed that they

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did not know, that they did not read the Bible, that they followed the things that were

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preached in some churches and not, not backed up scripturally, you know.

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It's a sad thing.

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It is a sad thing.

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But I mean, God is a loving God, he's not, you know, and it even, it did, the Bible talks

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about God blinding, blinding some people on purpose because if they knew the truth, then

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they would be responsible for the truth.

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They would be held up to that standard, but he knew that some of them couldn't handle it,

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so they're purposely blinded until Jesus comes.

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So he, he doesn't, he needs our, he doesn't need our help.

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He has, he knows exactly who he's touching, where he's putting everything and it's perfect.

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Yeah, basically, we put a bear with it, right?

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And we got to, we have to deal with, with ourselves and don't worry about the larger picture

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or plan or anything like that.

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It's just deal with ourselves and, and work the way they, you think, you think so.

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And, and, and witness, you know, the, the great commission is to go out and tell the world

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of Jesus and all that.

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And I believe that, but I think, you know, we try to make it grander than, than, individually,

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than it is.

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That can be as much as just like you and I talking, like my, my, talking to your kids or your

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mother or your neighbor or whatever.

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And I truly believe God puts people in front of you that, that he wants you to talk to,

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to that level every, every day.

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Like it, it, yeah, you don't have to seek them out and worry about how am I going to do

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this and I'm going to have a podcast.

473
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I'm not going to, you know, whatever.

474
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I mean, he knows how he's doing it.

475
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,880
He need to relax, he just need to relax in his love and let it flow.

476
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,880
He's got it.

477
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,880
Exactly.

478
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There is this.

479
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Literally.

480
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Well, let's talk about that because it, obviously, we're running out of time now.

481
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I'm fortunate, they, which is always the way, you know, I get into this big conversation

482
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and then we run out of time.

483
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So, I'm really, it's such a shame.

484
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But can you tell us then about, well, basically the photograph, what can you tell us about

485
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that without giving away, you know, everything, you know, in the book and that and this.

486
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It sounds amazing.

487
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,040
So I was in Jerusalem.

488
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I went on a trip with CBN with the 700 Club and I stayed in Jerusalem afterwards and I

489
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kept trying to go up to the temple mount.

490
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And the dome of the rock that is on the temple mount is a Muslim now that's also where Solomon's

491
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,880
temple was.

492
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It's Mount Moriah.

493
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,880
There's a lot of history on that temple mount.

494
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So every time I went up there, they were closed for prayers.

495
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They were having prayers and they make a big deal that you're not allowed to pray up there.

496
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And so I had a journal with me that had a little cross on it.

497
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I went through this security bank as finally it was open like the third or fourth time that

498
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I went up there and the guy grabbed it and he said, you can't take this up there.

499
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And I said, it's not a Bible.

500
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It's just my journal.

501
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And he looked through it and kind of threw it back at me and I was like, oh my gosh.

502
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So I go up there and I felt the Lord telling me to go say the Lord's Prayer.

503
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So I went over across from the Mount of Allah's on the temple mount and I said the Lord's

504
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Prayer and I filmed myself even doing it.

505
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And I don't know if you know the words prayer, but it's our Father who art in heaven.

506
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Howl would be thy name?

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Thy kingdom come.

508
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Thy kingdom come here.

509
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Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

510
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Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass

511
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against us and lead us not into temptation.

512
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The deliverers from evil.

513
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Perthine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.

514
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So I did that.

515
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I left there.

516
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I went to the tomb where they say the tomb was they're not sure if it's it or not.

517
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And of course he wasn't there.

518
00:33:43,140 --> 00:33:50,980
I wanted to go to a dominoes pleb it which is a church.

519
00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:59,860
It's shaped like a tear drop on the Mount of Allah's and it is a tribute to where he prayed

520
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and wept for us in wept for Jerusalem.

521
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And so I went up there and this man comes behind me and he says do you want some coffee?

522
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And I was like what?

523
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Because it is like a hundred degrees and I've just come up the Mount of Allah's and I'm just

524
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sweaty.

525
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And I was like no thanks.

526
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You know, and he offered me some water.

527
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And I said no, I'm I just want to go in this church.

528
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And I'm probably going over way too long but I just went and prayed for a little bit and

529
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then he I the church the people came out and so then I went in there and he came in

530
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there and I mean we talked and took pictures and then he walked me around the grounds and

531
00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:50,100
just started teaching me like showing me trees.

532
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The first one was a tree that had these thorns and they were like this long and he's

533
00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:58,140
like that's the Spina Christa.

534
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That's what the tree was made of that was Christ thorns.

535
00:35:02,620 --> 00:35:07,940
We think of the thorns as like this big they were this big and they were like nails.

536
00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:15,220
I mean crazy and then he took me to a locust tree and showed me that and he picked off a

537
00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:19,740
thing and he opened the beams inside and he goes these are carrots.

538
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:24,740
This is how they used to weigh you know like the gold and stuff like that.

539
00:35:24,740 --> 00:35:33,580
And I mean at the time I was just it didn't even occur to me that this is a major tourist

540
00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:39,900
place and it's just me and him walking around for 45 minutes.

541
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,900
Nobody else.

542
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:51,660
His name was David and you know we spent a long time together he gave me a big hug and

543
00:35:51,660 --> 00:36:00,340
I walked out and I looked over and up into the sky and it looked at the time I just thought

544
00:36:00,340 --> 00:36:07,940
the sky looked crazy like the sun it almost looked like a a tomb like a tomb that had a

545
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:12,100
light behind it but that didn't register to me at the time.

546
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:16,660
So I just I've been taking pictures of the sky the whole time I was there because it was

547
00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:22,340
doing some crazy stuff and I didn't think about it.

548
00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:29,060
I didn't see till two months later I'm looking through my pictures and I'm like that looks

549
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:36,140
like someone sitting on top of the sun and so I have an online ministry called Pray for

550
00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:41,340
me that's on Facebook so I thought well I'll put it on there maybe somebody you know know

551
00:36:41,340 --> 00:36:49,100
something or whatever and so I put it on there and somebody said turn it upside down and

552
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:56,060
I mean it's not it's undeniable you can see the face of Jesus you can see the crown you

553
00:36:56,060 --> 00:37:07,140
can see everything and the sweetest part is I mean besides that Jesus exists for the entire

554
00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:12,860
world to see and I actually have a picture of him I have no idea why he let me do that

555
00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:18,300
but he did and but I think it has to do with that prayer his kingdom come his will be done

556
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:29,380
it it opened somehow something and but he took he put something very personal in that picture

557
00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:35,300
he's holding a dog in his arms which is crazy and I had just put I don't have any children

558
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:43,820
so Gigi was like my daughter she was my my kid and she had passed away not two months

559
00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:50,600
before I had to put her down and that was exactly he was holding her exactly how I held her

560
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:59,500
when we had to put her down so I mean he cares about us to that level and even our animals

561
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:10,900
you know I don't know what else to say yeah it's him and he's good to have a look at that

562
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:17,320
and read through everything because you know Lidi Lee it's fantastic it's been great talking to

563
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,980
you though I absolutely enjoy living in it a bit I think I'm gonna I'm gonna go away from

564
00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:28,300
this conversation thinking about all sorts of things you know especially you know the

565
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:32,900
rapture you mentioned you know the photograph I'm definitely searching that out you know

566
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:40,020
I'm make all sorts of things basically so I hope that your readers will and listeners and

567
00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:47,540
viewers forget our viewers will also do the same thing as well you know Lidi Lee Roberts it's

568
00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:55,100
absolutely great for that absolutely God bless you I really appreciate it Chris is so beautiful

569
00:38:55,100 --> 00:39:00,340
to meet you thank you for doing this to meet you too now listen everybody make sure that you look

570
00:39:00,340 --> 00:39:05,540
at the ministry then that Lidi Lee has online then you say that's on Facebook what's the name of

571
00:39:05,540 --> 00:39:12,340
ministry again pray for me it's called pray for me pray for me not pray for you pray for me yes so

572
00:39:12,340 --> 00:39:16,660
that's all good and do you have a website or anything else like that that that people can find you

573
00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:26,420
it's at a quit lying to my children.com and I probably shouldn't say this but I the whole book is on

574
00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:35,460
that website God didn't want anybody to confuse my motivations for any of this so it's

575
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:40,340
there for free. That's pretty good that's fantastic great and I'm not surprised that you did that

576
00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:45,940
to be fair honestly uh like really well there you go Lidily Roberts thank you very much for joining

577
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me today and I hope that we meet again soon in the future. Me too. Me too. Thanks Chris. Goodbye.

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